It is hard to win every argument, but there are those among us who give it a good try. Hopefully they are not of the stubborn, belligerent sort who continue to press their opinion even though they may realize they are on shaky ground. With increasing volume, a pointed finger, a red face and spittle flying, they near the point of being physical. Logic and reasoning are abandoned along the way and replaced by unjustifiable, and foolish remarks.